vxbush 10/7/2020 6:09:54 AM

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The "JCM forgot to set up a morning thread" thread....

So the thread exists because JCM forgot to set it up. Which is a contradiction. Therefore, today must be a contradiction day, meaning contradictions become true. 

So Biden campaigning by hiding out in his basement makes perfect sense!

lucius septimius 10/7/2020 6:25:47 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 1:

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 6:27:12 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 1:

I always lie.

/raising a Spock-like eyebrow

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 6:29:46 AM

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Via Insty: Heather MacDonald at City Journal--

President Trump's handling of his coronavirus diagnosis models positive masculinity - rational and unbowed.

A must-read, IMHO.

vxbush 10/7/2020 7:20:58 AM

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JCM 10/7/2020 7:39:34 AM

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Kosh's Shadow 10/7/2020 7:47:56 AM

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In #5 vxbush said: Kosh, you wrote up a good summary piece yesterday about the coronavirus details, and you mentioned how its affect fertility. Could you share a pointer on that? 

Link (JPost)

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 8:10:21 AM

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Tremble, dictators!  Because Joe Biden!

JCM 10/7/2020 8:31:28 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 8:

Joe is an expert.... in appeasement!

Kosh's Shadow 10/7/2020 8:36:26 AM

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In #8 Occasional Reader said: Tremble, dictators!  Because Joe Biden!

Imagine how much more they'll have to pay Hunter Biden if his father is President.

vxbush 10/7/2020 8:43:28 AM

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In #8 Occasional Reader said: Tremble, dictators!  Because Joe Biden!

I swear, he looks seriously bug eyed at the beginning of that video. 

turn 10/7/2020 9:37:06 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 4:

Thanks for the link OR, I’ve forwarded it to the boys and it has led to a lot of discussion this morning. As it turns out, one favors the “minimize death toll” lockdown approach America has largely followed and the other would have favored the “do nothing” approach that Sweden has largely followed (call it the herd immunity alternative if you prefer). What I’ve learned so far through our back and forth is that without hindsight there is no clear or  “right” approach to having dealt with the pandemic.

However, my “instinct” (for lack of a better word) tells me that the lasting damage to American society will be worse than had we done far less concerning a “lock down”. In this regard, I largely agree with the author of the article.

In summary, I would have been willing to risk (then accept) a higher Covid death toll and wait for herd immunity (and a vaccine) rather than suffer the lasting societal damage consequences of the  “lock down” policy. I really wonder now what Trump would have done different in hindsight and whether he regrets the decisions that were made.

turn 10/7/2020 9:37:54 AM

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Reply to JCM in 6:

Thats what I feel lie this morning! ha

Kosh's Shadow 10/7/2020 9:42:22 AM

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Long article about the funding and management behind BLM

I won't say RTWT, but do if you want.

Turns out much of the money comes from the Warren Buffett family and possibly Peter Buttenwieser (deceased 2018), the heir to the Lehman Brothers fortune.

But the money company behind it is largely run by Obama era officials. 

Recently, after Pike stepped away, the Tides network has taken on a distinctly political role, whose guiding star appears to be Barack Obama. The secretary of the Tides board is Suzanne Nossel, the CEO of PEN America and a former deputy assistant secretary of state for international organizations in the Obama administration; board member Cheryl Alston was appointed by Obama to the advisory committee of the federal pension program. Peter Buttenwieser, the heir to the Lehman Brothers fortune who passed away in 2018, financed a fund in his own name which is administered and distributed entirely by the Tides Foundation. A “major behind-the-scenes supporter of Democratic candidates,” Buttenwieser was one of President Obama’s earliest high profile backers, helping the then-senator organize his bid for the White House.

Moreover, Atlantic Philanthropies, a nonprofit created by billionaire retailer Chuck Feeney in the 1980s, has directed more than $42 million in grants through the Tides network since 2000. Based in Bermuda, Atlantic Philanthropies was able to participate in political lobbying efforts in ways that continental United States nonprofits cannot. Atlantic became increasingly aggressive under the Obama administration. As Gara LaMarche, Atlantic’s president, said in one think tank address, when Obama was elected “we saw opportunities to assist our grantees in moving forward more rapidly and broadly in a number of areas central to our mission.” In return, Atlantic dispensed $27 million to help push Obamacare through Congress. At the ceremony to sign Obamacare into law, LaMarche stood beside President Obama in the East Room of the White House.

This certainly comes close to confirming BLM, etc is a political movement now aimed at getting Trump out.

turn 10/7/2020 9:42:30 AM

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Reply to turn in 13: “like”

turn 10/7/2020 9:45:16 AM

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In #14 Kosh's Shadow said: This certainly comes close to confirming BLM, etc is a political movement now aimed at getting Trump out.

Something I’m sure we all felt from the beginning. That and the fact that Antifa is more than an “idea”.~spit~

vxbush 10/7/2020 9:56:21 AM

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In #12 turn said: Thanks for the link OR, I’ve forwarded it to the boys and it has led to a lot of discussion this morning. As it turns out, one favors the “minimize death toll” lockdown approach America has largely followed and the other would have favored the “do nothing” approach that Sweden has largely followed (call it the herd immunity alternative if you prefer). What I’ve learned so far through our back and forth is that without hindsight there is no clear or  “right” approach to having dealt with the pandemic. However, my “instinct” (for lack of a better word) tells me that the lasting damage to American society will be worse than had we done far less concerning a “lock down”. In this regard, I largely agree with the author of the article. In summary, I would have been willing to risk (then accept) a higher Covid death toll and wait for herd immunity (and a vaccine) rather than suffer the lasting societal damage consequences of the  “lock down” policy. I really wonder now what Trump would have done different in hindsight and whether he regrets the decisions that were made.

My concern now is that *any* cold or flu bug will be treated the exact same way as COVID, and every year we will now have such lockdowns or Certain Folks™ will say we should have lockdowns to protect everyone. I think this will ramp up even more if Trump wins reelection. 

JCM 10/7/2020 9:58:28 AM

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Moving homeless people to hotels slowed virus spread in King Co., study finds

The initiative also produced other benefits to the people who were relocated, say authors of the joint study from the University of Washington and the King County Department of Community and Human Services.

Conclusion, we need more money to provide housing....

No mention of drug rehabilitation, or the crime that goes along with concentrating the homeless in these locations.

turn 10/7/2020 10:13:15 AM

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In #17 vxbush said: My concern now is that *any* cold or flu bug will be treated the exact same way as COVID, and every year we will now have such lockdowns or Certain Folks™ will say we should have lockdowns to protect everyone. I think this will ramp up even more if Trump wins reelection. 

Great point, I share your concerns vx. What can be done to prevent lockdowns from becoming the new norm for every potential virus or threat to America that develops? The lockdown has also set a very bad precedent for the future, especially with the “true believers” on the left. We already see that Biden wants to lock America down more, and not less. It would surely get worse if they, the Democrats, gain even more power. All the more reason to believe the lockdown was the wrong choice to begin with, it only added to a further loss of “individual rights”. We really really need Trump to win, otherwise the downward spiral to a police state only accelerates.

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 10:16:07 AM

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Now this is way, way too close to home, literally:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-investigating-fatal-shooting-at-gas-station-in-chevy-chase-area/2020/10/05/d5ac8ffc-0707-11eb-859b-f9c27abe638d_story.html

turn 10/7/2020 10:21:20 AM

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In #18 JCM said: *snif**snif*....somethin' smells.

Yes it smells, it smells as if Covid is once again being used as a political weapon against what should be good (conservative) common sense. We gave the Democrats an inch with the Covid lockdown and now they want a mile. Another good reason to continue believing the lockdown was the utterly wrong approach in dealing with the pandemic.

turn 10/7/2020 10:27:57 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 20:

Shootings and murders are on an uptick in my home town as well. Something in a large part also attributable to the lockdown as well as the BLM movement, IMO. I anticipate it will only get worse with the defund the police policies being championed by the left, Governor Newsome and Kamala Harris I’m looking at you!

buzzsawmonkey 10/7/2020 10:33:37 AM

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Reply to JCM in 18:

Hey, JCM!  I see where your governor Inslee just Tweeted that "What aircraft carriers were in WWII, masks are today."

buzzsawmonkey 10/7/2020 10:42:21 AM

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I just got a new junk email from some outfit I've never heard of, calling itself "AntisemitismExposed.org."  It appears to be a one-man operation, claiming to be based in Arizona, and rather badly designed.  

The lead article alleges some "antisemitic" utterance by Donald Trump, and the commentary ends with the writer---someone named "Lenny Giteck"---explaining that this is why he's gonna cast his vote for Biden/Harris.

I have to presume this is a new astroturf "organization," which suggests that the Democrats are getting worried about even their traditional lock on a large percentage of the Jewish vote.

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 10:42:22 AM

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In #22 turn said: Shootings and murders are on an uptick in my home town as well.

No doubt they are all being perpetrated by undercover white supremacists....

JCM 10/7/2020 10:42:38 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 23:

*thud*

Kosh's Shadow 10/7/2020 10:55:10 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 24:

The Dems have been running an ad I haven't seen, but have read about, that tries to show connections between what is going on today and 1930's Germany.

I do find some parallels - but the rioting, along with trashing of Jewish businesses and Jew-hatred scrawled on synagogues, is being done by BLM, not the white supremacists.

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 12:15:02 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 27:

Leftist projection... again.

lucius septimius 10/7/2020 12:51:52 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 27:

Well Hitler arrived at the Nazi party rally in a plane and got off and waved.  Trump flew a helicopter back to the White House and got out and waved.  It's obviously the SAME THING!!!!

(no, they really tried that one today).

@PBJ3 10/7/2020 1:01:55 PM

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Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 1:16:34 PM

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In #29 lucius septimius said: Well Hitler arrived at the Nazi party rally in a plane and got off and waved.  Trump flew a helicopter back to the White House and got out and waved.  It's obviously the SAME THING!!!!

I am literally shaking.

buzzsawmonkey 10/7/2020 2:12:27 PM

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In #31 Occasional Reader said: I am literally shaking.

Well, it is Sukkot.  If you're going to shake, we can probably find you a lulav...

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 2:21:42 PM

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In #32 buzzsawmonkey said: Well, it is Sukkot.  If you're going to shake, we can probably find you a lulav...

Sorry, whooosh, right over my head... 

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 2:24:02 PM

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lucius septimius 10/7/2020 2:29:26 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 34:

I almost got t-boned by some Zoomer texting and driving today.

Kosh's Shadow 10/7/2020 2:33:15 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 34:

I'm glad I can work at home now. For a while, the 2 lane highway would have people who forgot how to drive not going 50 in the right lane, and the left lane had drivers doing over 80.

That's on a 55 MPH zone.

I've also had people come up at least 80 in a 45 MPH zone.

We live on a curve, 25 MPH, and people go 45 there. A few weeks ago, someone ran off the road a few houses up and took down a pole. How fast do you need to be going to knock down a pole and bash in the front end of a car?

We think he was trying to avoid turkeys (the bird, not other drivers) in the road, but if he had been going 25, or even 30, that would not have been difficult.

JCM 10/7/2020 2:47:09 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 36:

Drivers training is no longer training.

It's merely a certification you read a book and drove around a block.

Drivers just don't know what they have. 2-3 tons of metal governed by physics.

I watch other drivers, few have a scan to build situational awareness, just fixated on the car in front of them.

There is no training on how to handle situations, no skid training, they don't even talk about straight line braking.

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 2:57:34 PM

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JCM 10/7/2020 3:15:12 PM

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VP Debate state. The irony of the banner, when one candidate is on record as wanting to destroy both.

Kosh's Shadow 10/7/2020 3:16:46 PM

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In #37 JCM said: I watch other drivers, few have a scan to build situational awareness, just fixated on the car in front of them. There is no training on how to handle situations, no skid training, they don't even talk about straight line braking.

At least they're looking at the car in front of them instead of their phone.

I had drivers' ed, but still no skid training. I had read about "turn into a skid", but never understood it, until a fresh snow. No other cars on the side street, and I was going slow, but got into a skid - and knew what was meant, and handled it.

buzzsawmonkey 10/7/2020 3:29:58 PM

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In #33 Occasional Reader said: Sorry, whooosh, right over my head... 

The week-long holiday of Sukkot, which winds up the somewhat-grueling Jewish autumn holiday cycle, runs through Saturday.  It is during that period that one "waves," or "shakes," the palm branch (lulav), augmented by some willow and myrtle branches, while also holding an esrog (citron).

There are some interesting elements of this with regard to the New Testament, insofar as Jesus is recorded as entering Jerusalem shortly prior to Passover, which occurs in the Spring, but Palm Sunday has people flinging palm branches before him and shouting "Hosannah! Hosannah!" (i.e., "Hoshana! Hoshana!," or "Save us! Save us!") both of which are associated with the holiday of Sukkot, which occurs at this time of year---a collapsing, if you will, of the calendar.

Both Passover and Sukkot were/are "pilgrimage festivals," i.e., festivals where one was supposed to go to Jerusalem and celebrate at the Temple---if there was one.  So the question is, why were these two festivals telescoped together in the New Testament?  I have read that this was done as a signaling of the End Times, when the then-current calendar would cease to exist; it is also possible that, if the proper timeline were observed, Palm Sunday would occur right about now, half a year away from the drama of the crucifixion.  

Anyway, my comment merely picked up on the "shaking," since that is one of the terms generally used for the palm branch at this time of year.

buzzsawmonkey 10/7/2020 3:35:16 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 34: Reply to JCM in 37: Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 40:

How timely. 

I just went out to move my ancient auto---I'm running through all the family's discarded cars; this one was my mother's---and was signaling that I was going into a parking space, but the person of diversity behind me decided to move forward as I was trying to back in, to the detriment of my front and his rear fender.  Nothing serious; just some scratched paint.  But he came out of his vehicle and started jabbering at me in a language, or an English variant, with which I am not familiar.   I'd have exchanged insurance info with him, but off he drove.

I hope he does not stealthily return and vandalize my vehicle.  As far as I'm concerned, I'm blameless; I was signaling my intentions, as the saying goes, and Mr. Indeterminate Asian chose to disregard those signals.

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 3:35:55 PM

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In #41 buzzsawmonkey said: while also holding an esrog (citron)

You have to hold onto a French car?

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Anyway, thank you, I knew generally about the holiday but not about those details. And I still intend to one day make my mock blaxploitatio film about black Jews, “I’m Gonna Git You, Sukkot”.

Occasional Reader 10/7/2020 3:36:22 PM

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In #43 Occasional Reader said: blaxploitatio

... n

Kosh's Shadow 10/7/2020 3:37:33 PM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 42:

Hope you got his plate number and filed a police report. That way, insurance will cover it. At least in MA, there is "uninsured driver coverage" which would.

buzzsawmonkey 10/7/2020 3:49:50 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 45:

Nope, didn't.  He was not there long enough.  I'm hoping---hoping---that Mr. Indeterminate Asian will chalk it up to life in NYC and disappear.

I don't really care about the scraping on the fender of a 21-year-old car.

buzzsawmonkey 10/7/2020 3:53:54 PM

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buzzsawmonkey 10/7/2020 4:01:24 PM

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AND we just got the mail in my little old apartment building, which INCLUDED voting information and instructions for someone who's not lived here for at least 4 years.

Oh, yeah---mail-in voting. That's the ticket!

doppelganglander 10/7/2020 4:05:44 PM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 48:

I should ask my brother in NJ if he got a ballot for our mom, who's been gone nearly four years. Heck, this year he might be getting a ballot for dad, who passed away in 1982.